Tuesday, August 18, 2020

When remodeling your house should you do the siding first or the windows?

Luther Plagmann: The roof before the windows..if a stray shingle falls breaks a window its not a big deal. Also the roofing will sometimes leave tar on the house. And ladders can mar the siding.The windows next ...if the sills need to be replaced or you alter the size it will cause issues to the new siding. Get the proper pane (double or triple) for your zone. Be sure when the windows are put in that they insulate around them properly and find out what you need to do for caulking and weatherstripping in the future. The siding last. Ask for several (many) pieces of siding to store someplace. If it gets dinged or the grill is to close and melts some you will have the right color to fix it. (They alter the colors and textures and when the siding is still good in 8 years it's hell to find replacements that match perfectly there are a million variations of white and beige.)Have them watch how the siding is done so they can see how to repair if needed. When the siding is done! they will do the gutters and soffits. As a note steer clear of colored siding...go white or beige a blue house with pink shutters will be annoying in 5 years.VERY Important to be sure the electric and the plumbing is up to spec and energy efficient. Have them get someone to inspect it... add outlets upgrade the service. Also check the insulation values. GET Estimates and referances and time commitments. The mid grade roof material is fine the better stuff can't make any better guarentees If they do don't believe it, it's all pro-rated.Have the place checked for asbestos and lead paint and deal with any mold issues before they move in.The smartest thing you can do is get an energy consult they cost about 100- to 150$ (call your local utility company) They will use thermal imaging to determine what how and where insulation needs to be added and will guide you to what service you need to upgrade to for the electric and the plumbing....Show more

Betsey Copp: all windows ! have flashing that needs to go behind the siding. Flashing is! what helps keep water from getting into the walls and the house. They'll have to remove some of the siding to put the windows in, so better to not have them pull off brand new siding and possibly voiding a warrenty

Marvella Benward: Assuming a frame house with shiplap siding and short eaves and double-hung, weighted, wood frame windows (replacing only the sash) and shiplap siding, and a level, solid foundation, with no rot or termite damage, my guess for best order, based on what you talked about:Do the roof first in your list. Nothing worse than a leak destroying other work that has been done.1. Fix any rotted or damaged trim at the roof line, so that the new roof will go in without being disturbed by later work.2. Tear off and install the new roof.3. Tear off and replace any siding (adding wrap and water proofing as necessary).4. Fix the window frames as necessary, remove old sashes and replace the windows.If you need more extensive work (replacing all of the! siding and entire windows, including frames and trim) changes the order, but it might not change the cost much, and will probably make a much more energy efficient house.Here is a longer ordered list.There are nuances that change this order. Get your sub contractors together to discuss what each will do when, and see if they have any good ideas.1. Remove all trash from the house and any drywall, carpets, flooring, or other demolition material.2. Level the house and repair any foundation problems.3. Rough in any new interior walls.4. Do rough plumbing, especially roof penetrations (vents).5. Do rough wiring, especially roof penetrations (new service entrance).6. Determine the location of furnace/boiler/hot water heater stacks, vents, etc., and make roof penetration.7. Make any changes to the roofline structure, including dormers, etc.8. Tear off and replace the roof, installing roof jacks, flashing etc.9. Tear off old siding, soffit, facia, etc.10. Wrap house, ins! tall flashing and water proofing at windows.11. Install new facia, soff! it and corner trim.12. Install new siding.13. Paint outside.14. Install dry wall, float, prime.15. Install finish wiring.16. Install finish carpentry, cabinets, doors, etc.17. Install finish plumbing.18. Paint.19. Install and refinish floors.20. Install appliances.What is wrong with the list? Well it is almost never this perfect, especially while working on an old house. For example, the windows are often replacement windows that fit in existing frames, not all new windows as in the list. In this case, the frames must be repaired, have rotten sills replaced, caulked and primed prior to the installation of the new windows. Step 7 in the list can be done as early as between steps 2 and 3.Another determining factor is the weather. Here in Houston, you try for dry days to do much of the outside work, and you divide it into 2-day efforts (about as long as you can predict no rain). In Michigan, you are going to pay attention to the cold. It is tough to use your fingers whe! n it is freezing, even with fingerless gloves. Also, you need interior heat and ventilation to do dry wall or plaster, and paint is only applied when it is warm.Also, in Houston we don’t consider snow load, ice freezing in walls and at eaves, and absorbing all of the sun light you can. Down here we want to reflect or avoid all of the sun light (heat) possible, remove humidity from the house "envelope", and make sure that 3 or 4 inches of rain an hour will not float the house away. What makes sense here does not make perfect sense where you are, so when you are looking for advice, always check local sources. Old-time lumber yards, hardware stores, builders, and remodelers know something about what not to do.My favorite sources for information include the following accessible sources. I have to adjust a lot for Gulf Coast conditions, but most should work well for you. My other sources are not accessible, as many are out-of-print or, unfortunately, dead.The Taunton Pre! ss: Web site, books, Fine Homebuilding Magazine. Most of their books ! are available on Amazon.http://www.taunton.com/index.asp?http://www.taunton.com/finehomebuilding/The Better Home Showhttp://www.betterhomeshow.com/You can listen to these guys online, and you can send them emails and ask questions. One is a Registered Professional Engineer that owns a large home inspection company and the other is the owner of a Design/Build homebuilding company. The specialize in this area, but they have lots of contacts and solid information.And last, you can find contractors and sub contractors at NARI, the National Association of the Remodeling Industry.http://www.nari.org/...Show more

Todd Stogner: They should replace windows and doors first as the siding must be fitted and mounted around them! This is important because the windows and doors might have to have the framing reworked or replaced all together!Then the roof, once these have been taken care of the siding is next allowing for a better fit for the new siding!...Show more

Gregg Ha! gge: Replacement windows are often made to just fit into the frame of the old window. Thus they let in less light as you have the old frame, the new frame and the new sashes. To do a proper job on the windows it would be best to replace the entire old window frame and all. To do this, depending on the present siding, you may have to remove the siding around the window and the inside trim. The new windows should be measured to fit in between the studs and under the header. If the siding is already in place, it may be difficult to get the window out without destroying the siding.When we remodeled our house, we added windows, made windows larger, and actually removed some. We also added an inch of insulation under the new siding to seal up the walls and make the house more energy efficient. So we ordered windows with a deeper frame to accommodate the insulating board.Then after all the windows were in we put up the siding. With the new windows and extra insulation ou! r energy bills went down about one third, so it was definitely worth th! e money.As far as the roof goes, it depends on its condition. Since new siding often calls for new storm gutters, then do the roof first, the windows, the siding and then the gutters.Take your time to figure things out. Plan and plan again. Consult an architact. Talk to building supply people. Buy the best windows you can afford. It is worth the extra money in the long run.I wish you well....Show more

Debora Rinderer: the logic is simple: you have to remove siding to replace windows, unless the previous sider nicely put trim strips around the windows to allow for replacement.Also, you can do a much better job of leakproofing if you do the entire exterior all at once.if the roof leaks, it should take first priority, because it can do the most damage....Show more

Merna Fauset: Usually (almost always) put the windows in first. The only exception I can think of this late at night is if the new windows are the insert variety and they will be placed inside the o! ld jambs and sills. They are a good way to keep the old character of the trim and to save money on not having to replace the trim. But only if the old jambs and sills are in good shape. Otherwise the new install windows will be more energy efficient and more weather resistant (if properly installed)....Show more

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